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Lee Matthew Jackson:
Welcome to WPInnovator podcast. The podcast for web designers and design agencies exploring the world of WordPress and online business. And now your host, Lee Jackson. Hello and welcome to episode 46 of the WP Innovator podcast. This is your host, Lee, and today we have Puneet from Beaver Add Ons. It is such a cool plugin. Started off, I think only a few months ago and they have just ramped up the quality in this product. So there are tons of modules and layouts, all that good stuff.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So this podcast is really just grilling his brain, finding out how they got started as an agency and also how they transitioned into developing the Beaver Add on suite of awesomeness. All right, before I shut up and hand over to other Lee for the actual interview, which is freaking awesome, just a reminder that there is a Facebook group for us all to go hang out and share cat pictures. I even saw a cat video recently which was quite cool actually made by one of the members. Very impressive. And it’s [email protected] group when we’re not talking cats, which is actually rarely because I actually hate cats. But anyway, that’s another story and I’m in therapy and. Okay, anyway, moving on. We also talk about agency stuff, which is more important.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So we talk about WordPress, we talk about WordPress in our agencies, we talk about contracts. All sorts of stuff goes on in there. And we also have a nice laugh and a joke. It’s a safe place to be. So go ahead. Leejacksondev.com group I’m now going to shut up and hand over to other Lee. Bye. Hi, this is Lee at the WP Innovator podcast.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And today we have in the house Puneet from Ideabox Creations and the amazing, phenomenal Beaver Add Ons plugin. How are you, mate?
Puneet Sahalot:
Hey, Lee. I am good. How are you? How are you doing today?
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I’m doing really good. It’s just so cool to meet you because you guys have exploded on the Beaver builder scene within, I don’t know, six months. How long has the Beaver Add on plugin been going?
Puneet Sahalot:
We launched it in June 15, so it’s just three months, I guess now.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Three months? Well, that’s a long time. That’s a long time in the world of the web, isn’t it? So within three months, you guys are everywhere. You’re all over the Beaver Builder conversations in the groups and I’m seeing your website is growing. The add ons you’re building are so exciting. So guys, if you don’t know Puneet or Beaver Add Ons then he is part of the team from Ideabox Creations that have created a plugin for Beaver Builder which includes a whole load of absolutely phenomenal add ons for Beaver Builder. Really nicely designed modules, beautiful templates for landing pages of loads of different varieties and they’ve also gone above and beyond with regards to things like cool separators for rows and lots of extra tricks that don’t come out of Beaver build in the box. So that’s an amazing system and you can go check that out over@wpbeaver add ons.com and there’s a, you know, fantastic demonstrations of what those guys have been doing. I remember just a few months ago it was a very simplistic site and now they’ve grown phenomenally.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So I’m going to shut up for a second and do you just want to say hi and just tell people about yourself, Puneet, and how IdeaBox Creations came into existence?
Puneet Sahalot:
Yes, that will be wonderful. Hello everyone, I am Puneet Salud from Ideabox Creations. We started our web agency back in 2012 and now we are a small team of five. And recently, just a few months back, we started working with Beaver Builder, realized that there was a lot of potential there to expand it, extend it and make it easier for everyone to build websites. So that’s how the idea for Beaver Add ons came out and we started working on it. So our first release had only a couple of modules around, I think six or eight modules.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And
Puneet Sahalot:
we worked for building these modules for about two weeks and after two weeks we were ready for launch. And before Beaver buildup we were just a services agency doing a lot of client websites and we still do a lot of client websites. In past we have done websites for small businesses and we have also done large websites which are like news websites which consist of more than 30,000 or 40,000 news posts. So yes, that’s about me and my agency.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So I think one of those examples would be the Cambodia Daily. Isn’t that one of the big sites that you guys have worked on?
Puneet Sahalot:
Yes, Cambodia Daily is a really, really huge site we have worked on and it was a challenging job because we had to rebuild it in real time. While the existing site was live, there were a lot of posts being added regularly and at the same time we were working on a development site. So it was quite challenging to maintain and sync the database, all the files between development and production. And it was not a easy job. It took us almost six months to rebuild entire site from scratch and then launch it again.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s fantastic. And looking at this as well. It’s beautiful code. It’s really nicely laid out as well. So it’s really nice site. So you guys actually had to build that whilst the site was not only being updated, but kind of seamlessly make it. That’s what seamlessly changed it overnight whilst coding for six months.
Puneet Sahalot:
Yes. And because it was not only a website rebuild, there were a lot of new features as well. Like we had to integrate a paywall and we had to integrate a responsive ad manager. Then again with the paywall, another challenge was that a lot of users in Cambodia are not into online payments. So we built another add on for that which, which was a prepaid card system. So when a user goes to buy a newspaper or something, they can just buy a prepaid card as well and they can come online and redeem their prepaid card, get access to online news.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s brilliant. That’s such a good example. So I guess then the history of you guys is starting out as a web agency dealing with small to very complex projects like this. And then you kind of done a pivot. You’re still doing websites, but you’ve pivoted as well into offering software. At what point did you guys decide you wanted to create something for Beaver Builder and what was the push to do it? What made you do it? Because sometimes you can have an idea, oh, I want to create a plugin. And then you never do it. What actually made you guys go ahead and create Beaver add ons?
Puneet Sahalot:
Okay, so actually it started with a client project. We were working on a site and the client requested us that we should be using Beaver Builder for building the homepage. And as a developer, I’m not someone who usually prefers going with page builders. And this was the. So this was the first request and we tried to convince the client, like, page builders are not so good. You should be going with custom field plugin like acf. Or we can do something like using custom meta boxes or something, whatever you prefer, which is easier for you to manage from the backend as well and good for long run. But the client said no, Pure Builder is a really good plugin.
Puneet Sahalot:
You should give it a try. And we prefer doing it this way. So that’s when we started exploring it and we realized that it was really, really. And it is really a good plugin because first of all, it doesn’t rely on shortcodes. So that was a huge, huge relief for us. Then on exploring it further, we realized that the module CPI was quite robust because when we were Creating some things for our client, we realized there were some controls missing for styling. Then there were some elements which we could make easier for our client to update in future and maybe reuse on other pages, like creating a sales page. There were some sections which we were using on the homepage as well.
Puneet Sahalot:
So we thought we can put up a module easily for our client and they will be able to reuse it. So we started exploring the development side of your builder. And then lastly, the most impressive thing was it was compiling CSS and JS based on the uses of modules on a per page basis. So instead of putting up a heavy CSS or JS file, it was broken down into several JSON CSS files which were loaded only on a particular page. So overall, it turned out to be a very impressive plugin for us. And another day, after just a few days of finishing off this plugin project, we were discussing like, our team is really small and I prefer to work with my teammates instead of sitting into a different room or somewhere. So we were having a random chat like we should be working on some plugin or moving into a product development business. That’s when the idea came up for Viewer add ons like why not design or build something which can be used by or view all the users and not just a specific client.
Puneet Sahalot:
So at the same time, I was also active in the Beaver Builder group and I was seeing it grow. There were a lot of requests about row separators and some other fancy things. So I realized, okay, this is the right time. We should be working on Viewer Builder.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That is such a cool story.
Puneet Sahalot:
Yeah, that’s how we started working on it.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I think you need to write a letter to that client to say thank you for introducing you to Beaver Builder so that you saw the light. Really refreshing to hear from a fellow developer. The appreciation of Beaver Builder with regards to its structure, the way it’s been built. It’s amazing how you can easily create new modules and add in custom fields and selectors, et cetera, so you can really give your client that control of elements without giving them too much control. So for one of the examples I tend to use is that we will tend to strip out most of the modules that come with Beaver Builder and then only put in the modules that reflect the signed design of the client and then we will put in the relevant field. So it’s almost like a combination of ACF, where you used to be able to tell them, just fill this in and this in and this in and then your site will look right but it now gives you that sort of ability to easily create fields within your modules, but then you give them the flexibility to be able to drag them in the page and see them live. And like you said with regards to the CSS, the J, the, you know, the JavaScript, everything loading in pages, everything’s fast, it’s clean, it’s modular. Creating a module is so easy because he’s filling in an array.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
All of that stuff is just phenomenally good. And it massively increases, you know, the. Sorry, massively decreases the amount of development time that we have to do as an agency. But it also, you know, gives such freedom and power to the client within reason, you know, that you can restrict if you want to restrict them. So just thought I’d echo everything you’re saying. So freaking good. I think I’m an evangelist, I think I’m an evangelist for Beaver Builder here. What was the early days like? Then you got there, you’re like, right, we’ve created a product for a client.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
We’re in the Beaver Builder community. We can see these requirements. How did you go about launching the plugin first off and getting attention to it?
Puneet Sahalot:
Okay, so the first thing, we worked first of all on the most common requests which were being requested from all the users in Viewer Builder group. So those were row separators and some other fancy things. But I also realized that we were doing a lot of efforts, we were putting a lot of efforts on styling the forms because I think Content form is a part of every website, every, almost every website on the web. And at the same time, it’s also really difficult to style those forms because every plugin comes with their own custom CSS classes and structure, HTML structure. So we took up this idea of building a module for popular form plugins and simplify the process of styling the forms for every user out there. So the first, first set of our modules was a combination of, I think contact form 7 and gravity forms module, then some other fancy modules like row separators or info boxes, dual headings and things like those. And we built our site, tested it internally. We also tested our first purchase with our client and it worked out well.
Puneet Sahalot:
Then finally we launched it, announced it in the Be Over Builder group. So that’s how we first started generating our sales.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s really cool. And then at what point, because it’s been three months and your plugin has gone from probably, I think I remember it started with around, I want to say about 10 modules. It started off with a few, only a few, but then has rapidly grown to now being almost unrecognizable, where you’ve got multiple categories of items and theme templates. How have you found the transition? You’ve. You’ve created a simple plugin and then added and added so much within a short space of time. How are you coping with the support requests and things like that?
Puneet Sahalot:
Okay, so when we started working on this one, we were not even expecting that we would get such a huge response and good response from the Beaver Builder community. But I think that’s the most amazing part about this community, that it welcomes everyone. It’s always there to give positive feedback and even if there’s some criticism, it’s always positive ways to make you better and improve your product. So when we started working more on the plugin, we realized that there were a lot of more features were missing. We were working like crazy, almost 12 hours a day. Our entire team was in office at 9am and was leaving again 9pm so this was a tough time for us, but it also kept us energetic and we kept moving with development. The good thing was we were not receiving a lot of support requests and we are not yet receiving a lot of support requests. I think that’s because first of all, the UI itself, which Beaver Builder provides, is quite easy to use and understand.
Puneet Sahalot:
And because we were building around the same ui, not doing any fancy stuff, it was easier for everyone to use our add ons as well, without any need of specific documentation or explanation for any features which we added. And there were instances where we realized that we could simplify the UI a bit. So we created a custom, a set of custom fields in the backend, like if you use any of our modules, where, for example, if we talk about a dual button module, a button always needs a hover color and a default color. So instead of creating two separate controls, we combine both those controls into a single, single control. So this way we were saving on space. The UI was linen thin and the things were pretty explanatory for everyone to use. So the support requests have been down and again the code which we’re using, the underlying code for Power Pack is, is very lightweight. So even if you are using it on a large website, you won’t face any issues.
Puneet Sahalot:
Even if you are using it with multiple plugins, you won’t run into any issues. So our support request have been low because of that as well. Because you don’t go beyond the capacity of any existing server, it’s easier to deal with anything else.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So I think what you’re saying is Keeping it simple and keeping it clean as well, you know, mitigates the risk of lots and lots of support tickets. Have you not found though that you may get things like jQuery issues? So some people won’t be using the Beaver Builder theme, they may be using an old theme from ThemeForest, might be quite out of date, etc. Do you not run into problems with people using alternative themes?
Puneet Sahalot:
So far we haven’t seen anyone using ThemeForest themes. But yes, a lot of users are using Generic praise then they are using Genesis. Some of them have been using headwear as well. So I think these themes are pretty solid. And because of the same reason we haven’t run into any issues related to jQuery or JavaScript and because our coding practices that we are following are as per WordPress standards. Like if you are using jQuery, you should be using it in strict mode, correct. So if you do that, you don’t run into issues. That’s one thing.
Puneet Sahalot:
Which keeps us safe when it comes to support request and compatibility with other themes and plugins. So my experience, my experience has been like, if you follow correct coding standards, you don’t run into any issues. Most of the times me and you
Lee Matthew Jackson:
could be best friends. You know that, don’t you? This is all we talk about here as well. At Lee Jackson Dev, we’re constantly talking about trying to keep things simple, keep things clean. Follow the WordPress codecs so that we rarely get, you know, when we hand a website over, we rarely get many support requests afterwards. It’s usually something they forgot to ask for rather than actually a bug. And then we’ll be able to quote some extras to do that. But we really do try and keep strictly to those, you know, to those standards to make sure that we’re not going to have a problem in the future or an issue. I noticed, I noticed as well.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Then about was it a month ago you pivoted and added to the plugin itself the templates. Where did the demand come from for that?
Puneet Sahalot:
Okay, this was a thing on our list for quite some time and when we started working on the add ons modules, everything users were also requesting some templates. So being a small team, it was not possible for us to build it rapidly and quickly and deliver it fast. So we took our time. We started working on templates after we completed all our modules. The idea behind bundling up templates and the plugin itself is that when you’re working on a client side, sometimes you run out of ideas or sometimes there are Sites which you want to just build up quickly, maybe for a friend, maybe for a nonprofit, or for any XYZ reason. You just don’t want to mess up with some other Photoshop mockups or go around shopping for ideas for designs. So that’s why we built these templates. And these templates are again, focused for specific businesses.
Puneet Sahalot:
So you can either use them as inspiration for your design or simply put them up on the page, customize the images, change the images, update the content, colors and everything, and just get a new look for your website. And the most important part while building all these templates, which we wanted to make sure was to be addressed, was to make these templates not only fancy, but also focus on conversion. So if you go through our templates, you will realize that all the templates that we have built have prominent call to action buttons, properly styled forms. And along with the homepage, we have also added a standard about page and a contact page to every template in the plugin. So this really speeds up the development and design process.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I can testify as well to the impressiveness of these themes and one of our clients that we’ve put this the we’ve added your plugin to the site because they wanted to be able to create their own landing pages beyond the scope of the design, so they can have custom landing pages that look completely different to the design. And normally they’d be looking to use something like leadpages for that. Whereas by doing what you’re doing, you’re loading in some really high quality layouts or templates that people can use, they say, and they’re saving money on using things like LeadPages, which is something like 600 to $900 a year or something. And like you said, you’re focusing on the conversion because I have to admit, the actual templates that come with Beaver Builder itself, although they are slowly getting better, I don’t think that’s ever been its strength, those templates. Whereas the templates that you guys have been providing are really, really well designed. Who can we thank for that within your organization?
Puneet Sahalot:
Okay, it’s my design team and our lead designer, his name is Ramesh, so he does a lot of research before putting up those templates. And another lead developer from my team is Achal, who is also quite active on the Facebook group. So both these guys put a lot of efforts into building something which is usable for end users.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
It is absolutely phenomenal and I just want to pass on my own kind of congratulations, I guess, to everyone who worked on those templates because I do think they’re really phenomenal. They’re so beautiful, they’re responsive, they work really well. But for example, I do love the sales funnel templates that you’ve been building as well. Again, they look like something you would expect from LeadPages, but you can create a very simple, quick call to action with subscription. It looks clean, it looks crisp and it does the job. So to everyone in your team, thank you because you’ve made my life easier, you made my clients lives easier and it looks phenomenal. So guys, if you’re interested in WPBever add ons, I promise this is not an advertorial. Sometimes I get so excited about plugins like this that I must sound like I’m selling it.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
But the only reason why I’m excited like this is because I use this plugin. I think it’s brilliant. And you can find it on wpbeaver add ons.com or head on over to the Show Notes as well. You’ll be able to go and check this plugin out for yourself. If you go on the demo page you can see all of the different items that the guys have created and also you can see see some screenshots as well of the templates that they produce as well. And also you guys have been blogging recently as well, quite a bit. What direction will your blog be going in? Is it going to be predominantly help for people to create pages or are you going to be focusing on kind of lead conversions or do you have any goals for the blog itself?
Puneet Sahalot:
Yes, the primary idea with the blog is to help a lot of users to get started with Beaver Builder, to do more with Beaver Builder and to do more with WordPress eventually. So my focus is to write more about Beaver Builder, write more tutorials and start offering freebies like pre made templates, some layouts, some module presets. Like you know, when users are really getting started with Be Over Builder, they are stuck with some, sometimes they are stuck with design ideas. So we would like to solve that kind of problem with our blog. Here are 10 things which you can do with let’s say the contact form module on Viewer Builder. Okay, so we have a bunch of pre designed modules for users to download. You can download it here and customize it further for use. So these are the things kind of things which I’m hoping to do in near future.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s so cool.
Puneet Sahalot:
And apart from the blog, we are also working on a completely open template library. So this template library will have templates for rows, pages, modules These will be free and premium templates. Premium are the ones which are already coupled with Power Pack. So if you just want to preview something, you can preview it from our template library. Or if you want to download the free ones, it will be available for download as well.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s fantastic. Now do your Here’s a question. Does your plugin work well with the free version as well of Beaver Builder or is this something people need to at least have the pro version of Beaver Builder for?
Puneet Sahalot:
It works absolutely fine with the free version, but if sometimes users are going to use the page templates, I think they might find some pieces missing because some of parts of the templates are page templates are made with the pro version modules of your builder.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah.
Puneet Sahalot:
So otherwise if you are not going to use page templates or if you are not worried about those missing parts and you can build your own parts or sections, everything works perfectly fine with the light version as well.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s awesome. So again, if you’ve got Beaver Builder, you’ve got the free version, you don’t want to commit to say a pro license, etc. But you would like to add on some extra modules. It actually works out I guess lower cost as well to to use something like Beaver Add Ons because you guys actually have. I think you’ve pretty much got just as much as comes with Beaver Builder and then you’ve got some more beyond that as well. And if you want to white label for your clients, you I haven’t tested this, but do you Because I always tell clients what I use and who I use. But do you have any white labeling options as well for any agency that might want to hide that they’re using Beaver Add Ons or Beaver Builder, yes,
Puneet Sahalot:
there is a white label option that we built while around probably this was done in third or the fourth major release for the plugin. So the one interesting part about this white label feature is if you just don’t want to tell your clients what plugin you are using, you can simply hide it from your plugins list. So the advantages your client never knows there is a plugin installed on your site. And the second thing is they won’t be able to tinker around with it or deactivate it because it’s not visible on the plugins list. So that saves you a lot of trouble. If they accidentally disable a useful plugin on the site, they can mess up with the design, but if you completely hide it from their list, they won’t be able to do anything about it.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Exactly. Actually for that as well, I could recommend people check out Admin Menu Editor Pro as well. So with Admin Menu Editor Pro, you can essentially hide your admin account so that they can’t reset the admin account password to log in as you. But you can also then for each and every single different user, so administrators, etc. You can hide specific elements and then only allow your particular username to see absolutely everything as well. So if people are in a situation where Puneet’s recommending, you know, hiding certain elements, certain plugins, or certain menu items from people, then Admin Menu Editor Pro has been super useful for us as well. And you can check that out on admin menueditor.com I think it is. I’ll double check and make sure that’s also in the show notes.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So, Puneet, speaking of plugins, I’ve just dropped a recommendation from my own experience, but do you guys have any WordPress plugins that are not Beaver Builder, obviously that you guys have used in the past as your agency that you think the community should go and check out?
Puneet Sahalot:
We are using mostly ACF for our development and if we go with if you don’t want a backend UI for managing customers custom fields, we go with CMB2 custom meta boxes too. These are the two plugins which we use actively for development purposes. Other than that, we are using Blog Vault. Blog Vault is a very, very good, very impressive backup plugin. It creates a complete backup of your site, of your servers, on remote servers, and it’s highly reliable. It can work for sites with gigs of data without any issues. So that’s my favorite plugin for backups and for managing our sites, we are using Infinite WP. Other than this, we use standard plugins for ECU, I.e.
Puneet Sahalot:
wordPress is UI used. Then we use Gravity Forms for all our form requirements. Other than this, what was the backup plugin?
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Sorry, what was the backup plugin you recommended?
Puneet Sahalot:
It is Blog Vault. Blog V. Yeah, Blog Vault.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Brilliant.
Puneet Sahalot:
I’m going to get that in Blog Vault. The website is. Website is blogworld.net Tell me a little
Lee Matthew Jackson:
bit more about CMB2. What does that do exactly?
Puneet Sahalot:
So CMB2 is a code library for creating meta boxes. Unlike ECF, it doesn’t come with a UI in the backend where so you need to actually write some code to create a meta box. But the good thing is it’s not as complicated as the default Creating as meta box from scratch for WordPress by default. Yeah, so. And the reason why we use it sometimes again is because we want don’t want to hand over the control of meta boxes and custom fields to our clients. The one plugin which you have recommended is very good, but sometimes clients prefer having complete admin access and they also want to have flexibility if they want, if they move to some other developer or another agency. But when you using CMB2, there’s no interface in the backend for editing or updating or deleting any custom fields or meta boxes. So that keeps us a bit safe and we make it a part of our core functionality plugin.
Puneet Sahalot:
So it’s like a custom plugin which relies on a CMV2 and we also use this core functionality plugin to register custom post types or any other functionality which we want to extend with WordPress.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s a great idea. And with ACF as well, you can do something very similar, can’t you? You can actually export the PHP and put the PHP into your plugin. Therefore people aren’t being able to edit the actual custom fields or mess around with the settings there in the field groups, although you can still hide that as well. But that, that helps you to avoid people breaking stuff because we’ve seen that in the past. People thinking, oh, I can just add a new custom field in this view, why is it not appearing? And then it creates more problems than it solves. Or maybe they delete it. An entire field group which can be a complete nightmare. Well, they are fantastic plugin recommendations.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
We’ve got Advanced custom fields, CMB2 for meta boxes. That’s more like a framework. We’ve got Blog Vault Infinite wp that’s really cool as well because I think their initial program is free, isn’t it? And then you can buy the add ons which allows you to manage multiple WordPress sites. And of course Gravity Forms is phenomenal. It’s one of the leading form builders in there. One I want to drop as well, if you don’t mind me sharing. Because you guys have got integration with this is Caldera Forms as well. I really like that.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Right now I’ve been playing around with Caldera Forms. They’ve got the ability to create meta boxes in there as well. So you can create some really nice admin interfaces. And I believe wpbeaver add ons also has compatibility with their form outputs to style those as well and make them look beautiful. Is that correct?
Puneet Sahalot:
Yes, that’s correct. We have a module for calraforms as well.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Awesome. All righty. Well mate, you’ve been phenomenal. I just again, really excited about the product. I love it. Okay, so well done everyone in your team and keep up the great work. I can’t wait to see what the future holds. And what we usually like to do is ask our guests for a piece of advice, something that you’ve learned over the last few years that you would recommend other agencies adhere.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So maybe it’s a word of encouragement, maybe it’s a quote, or maybe it’s something that you do in your daily life that helps you or helps grow your business. What would that be?
Puneet Sahalot:
So I think the most important part when running a business with a team is to keep your team motivated and allow everyone a chance to speak up, share their ideas and get into a debate. Even if you are the owner or the project lead or team lead, whatever you are, whether you are on a senior position or not, you should be actually involved with your team. Get things done, discuss with them. If they make a valid point, you, you must be agreeing with them instead of making another excuse of just escaping the situation. So that is the best thing which I have learned from my team and I love working with them for the same reason. If I make a mistake, they will point it out simply. And if they make a mistake, I can point it out to them that this is wrong and this should have been done this way. Another thing is if you are into a services business or even if in products business, you should really have quality analyst on your team because that helps a lot.
Puneet Sahalot:
A quality analyst can help you review code, can help you test your final product, can help you test your website for cross browser compatibility, or test your mockups and compare them with your final results. So that saves a lot of time and client communication and revisions. These are the two things which I think are important for any web business.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s such good advice. Thanks so much for sharing that. So that’s good communication with your team and getting down with your team, working with them and doing the work as well, sharing the workload and being able to speak to each other, point each other’s mistakes and also encourage them as well. Such good advice. And also quality analyst, I believe yours is, Monica is your quality analyst and we actually have an outsourced quality analyst as well who will come in and check a lot of our work, the quality, etc. It’s just so good to have somebody else looking at your work because you can tend to, you know, for myself, if I’m looking at the same code day in, day out and the same website, there are things I’m going to forget or there are Things that I’m not going to notice. So just to have a third party come and look at it and, and just make sure you’ve done everything right. Make sure there’s no invalid code or you’ve made a mistake or something doesn’t quite look right, they can point that out much easier.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So again, such brilliant advice. So Puneet, what are the best ways of people connecting with you? And then we’ll say ta ta.
Puneet Sahalot:
People can reach me on Facebook, can ping me on Twitter anytime, can email me or drop me a message via wpperadons.com I’m always available and I’m always happy to meet new people and make new friends.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Brilliant. What’s your Twitter account? Twitter username?
Puneet Sahalot:
Sorry, yes, it’s P. Salute. So it’s P for my first name and salut from my last name.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So that’s P S a H a L O T. That’s P S A H A L O T. Connect with him. Paneet. Sorry. On Twitter. We’ll put that in the show notes as well. What we’ll also do is you guys have got the WP Beaver add ons group, haven’t you, on Facebook.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So people can connect with you inside of that as well, can’t they? If we put a link to that in the show notes as well.
Puneet Sahalot:
Yeah, yep, that will be good.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Awesome, mate, thank you so much for your time. It’s been fantastic. All that’s left to say is have a brilliant day and thank you again.
Puneet Sahalot:
Thank you. You do have a good day.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Take care.
Puneet Sahalot:
Bye.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So that’s the end of the show. But don’t worry, we’re going to be back next week with Josh from Caldera wp. He is one of the team behind Caldera Forms and all of the other plugins that you’ll find over@caldera wp.com so looking forward to sharing that one with you. Also, if you’re missing the voice of Jackson then that’s weird. But hey, don’t worry. We’re doing an episode every single day all the way through October. So, you know, I said I was going to do that. The pod a thon.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Well, it kind of went a bit crazy. That was only going to be seven days. It turned into 31 days of October where we’re doing an average of a 7 to 10 minute episode on a one particular WordPress tip or piece of advice throughout the Halloween season. So go and check out all of the recent uploads that have been added. You’ll see starting with T01. That’s called Tipisode and work your way through. All right, thanks for listening. Have an awesome day.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
See you next week. Or tomorrow if you’re listening to the Tippisodes.
