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Lee Matthew Jackson:
Welcome to the Agency Trailblazer podcast. This is an Agency Life episode coming to you every Wednesday Friday, where we interview an agency owner from around the world asking them the same questions because we’re all different, but we’re all the same. So let’s listen and learn from each other.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
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Lee Matthew Jackson:
Welcome to another episode of Agency Life. And today, we have in the virtual room, Lindsay and Martin from Jammie Digital. Hi, guys.
Martin:
Hi. Hello.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Hi. Waving at the camera. And so it’s still a novelty to actually be doing podcasts where I also have a camera option as well because normally I can hide behind it. I’m being a p j. It’s probably 30% of all of Agency Trailblazer podcasts would have turned in my pajamas, and people would never know. So now I have to wear my Gil shirt, of which I was accused of by the guys over at WP Builds. A little bit of banter going on. Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So I’m wearing my Gil shirt. So, guys, thank you for coming on. We’re gonna go through this lightning round and learn all about your agency, and I’m gonna ask you the first question. I’ll let you 2 fight about who answers what. But first of all, tell us the name of your agency and what it is you guys do.
Lindsay:
So we’re called, Jammy Digital, and we design WordPress websites.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yep. Excellent. Have you 2 have you 2 got, like, a secret code? Like, you’ll tap each other under No.
Lindsay:
But no. I just kinda know. It’s like a it’s like a Well,
Martin:
now if it goes wrong, now we don’t Yeah.
Lindsay:
Know we’re gonna ask. So
Martin:
we’re gonna have we’re gonna have to hit Lindsay on the line when she answers now.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I I just gave you the way of doing a code now. So alright. Yeah. Okay. So next question is if I was gonna buy you a birthday present for your agency and an ice cake and do a big surprise party, what date would it be and how old would you be?
Lindsay:
It’s oh, I was jumping in then.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
You are so glad.
Martin:
Well, we actually from watching, one of the episodes, we actually did a bit of research about it. So found out we what what date was it exactly?
Lindsay:
7th May. It’s like this with our anniversary as well.
Martin:
Card in June. It’s supposed to be in January. Okay. She don’t mind. She’s pretty laid back. 7th May. Yes. 2015.
Martin:
So we actually had, obviously, previous businesses, previous one time businesses, but Jammie Digital in its form. Yeah. That that domain name was May 2015.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So 2015. I can’t do the math. Are you 3 then? What what year are we?
Lindsay:
Or maybe. Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah. Aw. So cute.
Martin:
Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Well, let’s let’s unpack your setup then. Okay. How many people are in your team?
Lindsay:
So there’s 2 of us in our team, isn’t there? Me and me and Martin. Uh-huh. And we’re husband and wife team.
Martin:
Mhmm. And she works there.
Lindsay:
I work here.
Martin:
I work here.
Lindsay:
Mine is the very messy desk.
Martin:
Yeah. Which I have to clean before going every any Skype call. Yeah. Like, oh, is it messy? Mhmm. I don’t know. So so, yeah, I forgot that pleasure. But we also have a couple of freelancers, like,
Martin:
we can ask somebody to manage the accounts because that’s just something
Lindsay:
we can do. Mom.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah. That’s my mum. Oh, excellent. This is definitely a family business. Hi, mum.
Lindsay:
Very good. Yep. Family business. Yeah.
Martin:
So we also have, a couple of outsources we use occasionally for odd tech bits, you know, just something that we don’t have to tag.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Not related to you. Absolutely. Right.
Martin:
Oh, yeah. People we’ve been working with for a few years, really, on and off. It kinda floats in and out, really, because
Martin:
There were times when we were doing all graphic design, and we sort of been able to hand some that over, doing all the the WordPress builds, but some some odd bits we can give to other people as well. So just to keep us streamlined and thinking about bigger picture, really.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Awesome. Now for people who are watching on video, they will see that your room is totally on brand, folks. You can check out their website jammydigital.com and compare the image that you’re seeing right now. So my question is, do you have an office or a virtual setup? We’ll take the virtual setup because it’s clear you have an office. Is the office at home?
Lindsay:
It is. Yeah. It is at home. Yes. Yeah. So we sectioned out one room of the house. So, yeah, we’re in here. But, yes.
Lindsay:
Yeah. It is at home.
Martin:
So Yeah.
Lindsay:
We we were excited to actually decorate it. We just decorated it this year. So it’s looking on brand.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Looks so cool.
Martin:
And, in fact, Lindsay did have another office, does have another office, but she just misses me so much. And Really. The only the only the only thing she could do was move in with me. So Yeah. Now where we’re at.
Lindsay:
That was completely the reason.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah. So guys, if you are listening on the podcast, I highly recommend you go to this point in the video and just look at Lindsay’s face and see whether or not she was agreeing.
Lindsay:
Yeah. That’s not true.
Martin:
You’re sick of asking me questions, but I’m sick of running in
Lindsay:
and out. Yeah. It’s pure laziness. Yeah.
Martin:
Plus, we have these nice French windows that go out and someone’s been great with
Lindsay:
the
Martin:
cats running around.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Oh my gosh. I love you guys so much. This is brilliant.
Martin:
But we don’t have we don’t meet clients face to face. That’s something we outright don’t don’t do. No.Yeah.
Martin:
Partly because We we work with people all over the country now rather than local people So if somebody needs a meeting, it’s all done over video call even if they are 2 minutes away Yeah, I wear shorts and I’m not gonna wear
Lindsay:
a suit. I can’t get them in a suit Okay.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Are you wearing shorts right now?
Lindsay:
Exactly. Yep. Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Alright. Okay. I’ll have a word with you after the the recording. No. I’m joking. Alright. So I can already tell some of your culture, the way you guys work together. But the question will be describe your team culture, your dynamic.
Lindsay:
We well, we’re very relaxed as you probably noticed.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yep. And banterlicious. There’s lots of banter going on. I’m loving that.
Lindsay:
Yeah. There is a lot of banter. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. We don’t take anything too seriously. And we we’re quite honest.
Lindsay:
Well, yeah. I think being a husband and wife, you can be kind of brutally honest with each other. Not like working with a colleague where you think I have to be a bit, you know,
Martin:
not washed. On that shelf.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Oh, I don’t think that’s quite the right direction Or as
Lee Matthew Jackson:
you were too, I’d say, well, that’s rubbish.
Lindsay:
Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s pretty much our culture really, isn’t it?
Martin:
Yeah. And we have that same sort of banter with our clients.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Mhmm. Yeah.
Martin:
And we have great relationships where they can say I mean, most of them are in our free Facebook group. So they see us on Facebook lives all the time and Uh-huh. And and doing website critiques, and and we just we have fun. Like, we are doing it now, I suppose. We do it every Wednesday in our Facebook group, and we invite our clients along as well. Even if they are more traditional clients, like for bigger organizations, we still say jump in the Facebook group. We give loads of free tips and and advice away. So that line between business and and personal life is isn’t really there anymore.
Martin:
It used to be quite a lot, but Yeah. Not really anymore.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s really cool. What’s the name of your Facebook group so people can go and find it? And we’ll make sure we put a link to it in the show notes.
Martin:
It’s, website tips for non techies.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Website tips for non techies. And also, I will put a link to Martin’s episode, that we recorded a few months ago, where he was talking predominantly about offering value and education because that will help people understand that they need you. And you guys are living that all the time, and I absolutely love what you guys do. Alright. Thank you. Let’s talk about your industry or sorry, your mission. And do you work in a particular, industry or have a particular niche with your business?
Lindsay:
We do. We only design WordPress websites. Mhmm. And, recently, we’ve sort of probably the past year, really. I think it’s actually accidentally happened with the clients that we sort of attracted. We do mainly work with small business owners, but mainly a lot of personal brands as well.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Mhmm.
Lindsay:
And it’s just kind of gone that way from from the sort of clients that we attract, really, rather than a purposeful thing.
Martin:
About 80% of the minute are personal brands. Yeah. And I think it’s because a lot of these personal brands, although they may be doing well in their business, they still know that they know an awful lot about marketing, online marketing, about they’re doing a lot of their Instagram themselves, and they’re doing a lot of blog content themselves.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Mhmm.
Martin:
So they might have the budget to pay somebody else to do it for them, but they want to know that it’s getting done properly.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah.
Martin:
And that’s why, generally, we have to be as knowledgeable as we can be, really, about all of the latest marketing techniques as well, not just code and websites and graphic design. It’s it’s about building businesses at the end of the day, and and we find that we attract because we speak a lot about that.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah. And,
Martin:
how to make sure your content reaches your ideal customers, all that kind of stuff. We do tend to attract people that, are more sort of personal brand, trainers, coaches, authors, that kind of thing.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s what I love about having a niche because you’re learning about your target audience all the time. And you you are a personal brands in your own right as well, which is great. You’re doing what you for yourselves, what you do for other people as well. But you also mix with people all around the world. You know, you you went to CMA, didn’t you, this year as well, which was sadly, I couldn’t be there, but it looked freaking awesome. But, again, you’re because you’ve got your niche, because you’ve got your target type of client, you know where to hang out with these people as well. So I really, really enjoy watching you guys do that. Alright.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
What’s the main problem that you feel you solve for these personal brands?
Lindsay:
I think as as Martin said, it was it’s more about the the whole thing, really. So it’s not just, sort of we always say to people, if you want an absolutely stunning beautiful website and you don’t want to think about conversions or SEO or, you know, we’re not the people for you. We we try and think about not just how a website looks, but all the other things that come into it. So your content marketing, you know, your,
Lee Matthew Jackson:
user experience,
Lindsay:
SEO, all those kind of things. We try and bring all that into web design. And sometimes we might say to you, look, that’s not gonna work because of that.
Martin:
And sometimes people don’t wanna hear that.
Lindsay:
Yeah. But we but we say it anyway. Yeah. So So
Martin:
for instance, if a if a luxury brand came up and said, oh, we know exactly what we want. We we understand style. We’ve got an in house, art director.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah.
Martin:
And we want you guys to build a website for us and we wanna be a big part of it in terms of we wanna tell you exactly pixel by pixel what we want where. We’ll be like, look. We’re not for you.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I feel stressed already. Pay pay
Martin:
pay 50 grand to an an agency down in London and Yeah. Have them sort of talk about blue sky thinking and outside the box.
Martin:
That’s not what we do. We talk about cold weather, cold leads, and, and user experience. Yeah. And it comes from a place of them caring more about themselves rather than them caring about their clients and customers. And we always build websites for our clients. Customers not.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s good. That’s very insightful. I think a lot of the big businesses do get very wrapped up in in themselves, don’t they? And they forget that, they’re meant to be attracting people and generating leads with their website, not just simply showing off with look how freaking awesome we are. Because that just makes me, like, meh. I don’t care. Alright. Let’s talk about marketing because you guys are absolutely amazing at marketing. And I I would ask you a very big question.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
How do you guys generate your leads for Jeremy Digital?
Lindsay:
Well, we don’t we don’t actually spend anything, do we? No. On I think with the odd Facebook post boost, which is a fiber, we don’t we aren’t we don’t spend a penny on marketing.
Martin:
Other than going to conferences Conferences
Lindsay:
are a big, big
Martin:
thing for us.
Lindsay:
I suppose, yeah, you would probably class that as a marketing spend, but we do we do go to, yeah, like you said, CMA live before,which is yeah, like you said, CMA Live before, which is amazing.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Could be classed as education as well, by the way.
Lindsay:
Yeah. It’s kind of a mix of both, really.
Martin:
Yeah. We obviously spend a lot of money and time in educating ourselves with online courses. We’re part of lots of memberships as well. Mhmm. Put in yours, which is awesome.
Lindsay:
Yep.
Martin:
And we have lots of reach within our communities. Yeah. So whenever we come up with a new idea for marketing or maybe we just want some feedback, we can always get feedback from people we we we respect. So marketing comes from a place of whatever we know we get asked on a regular basis, whether it’s questions via our email form or maybe it’s in our Facebook group. We just got this constant stream of ideas of of new content to write, and we just spend all of our time rather than money writing content.
Lindsay:
Writing content. Yeah.
Martin:
And now we’ve got the podcast as well, which is live. So that’s that’s getting a lot of our attention as well. So we’re just trying to use as many avenues as we can to be able to give our content away. Right? Basis of content marketing is to just deliver epic content. And at the end of the day, when somebody’s ready to buy, they’ll buy from you.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I think what I like about what you guys are doing as well is even though a lot of the personal brands you work with probably know how to do a lot of the stuff that that they’re paying you guys to do, I think like you alluded to earlier, they just want someone they just wanna know that someone is doing it and that that they’re doing it right. So by you giving away all of this information isn’t you giving away the keys to the kingdom. It is simply demonstrating that you guys know what the freaking heck you’re doing. And if I’m gonna give you all of that work, I just know I can just trust you guys to get on with it. So really, really loving this, guys. Alright. Big question. This this could get really deep, and you may disagree with each other.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I don’t know. But how would you measure success?
Lindsay:
Well, we we we love it when someone actually calls us up or sends an email, and they’ve already decided that they want to work with us. Mhmm. We don’t have to set we rarely have to sell. We hate selling anyway. It’s a it’s our worst points. Yeah. Mine is truly quite
Martin:
like it.
Lindsay:
We quite like it. But I I’m terrible at it. But when someone comes to us, because they’ve read all our content
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah.
Lindsay:
Us they’ve seen it clearly what our prices are, and they’ve perhaps a lot of our clients actually, well, you know, before they’ve come to us have actually researched us and and gone to previous clients or asked around, you know, are we are we good enough? They’ve actually made that decision to work with us before they’ve even contacted us, before we even know they exist.
Lindsay:
Yeah. And that’s that’s really amazing. We we love it when that happens, and it keeps happening more and more Mhmm. Which we we absolutely love.
Martin:
Yeah. And and I suppose from a personal standpoint, we we we like to sort of live by our own terms. So having the fact that we get to work here in our shorts and t shirts and have our cats sort of interrupt our desk when we’re in the middle of something, it’s just quite pleasant for us and we we like that. And but in terms of our client success, what we like to see is obviously them getting back to us and saying, we’ve already had a sale through our website.
Lindsay:
Yeah. It’s amazing.
Martin:
Day after you’ve after you’ve built it, our rankings have already gone up, which a good thing is is it always happens because we came from an SEO background as well, and we ran Jammy Digital as an SEO agency before web design. Now we can completely drop that off, which we spoke about in the, podcast interview.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s right.
Martin:
But we’ve still got that knowledge. So when a client contacts us and says, I’m getting a lot more traffic now than I did before, and I’m ranking for more keywords than I did before. Although we don’t do SEO, we still obviously build websites with that in mind, and having that feedback is always a great thing.
Lindsay:
Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And you 2 obviously high five each other and all of that sort of stuff. Ring the bell, all that sort of stuff.
Lindsay:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let’s
Lee Matthew Jackson:
talk about well-being because you guys are in a home office. It’s in your house. Yeah. It’s there. It’s very tempting to go and do some more work. I know the exact feeling. I have an office. I’m at my home office today.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And, how do you and I’m asking this for my own sanity as well as everyone else who’s watching or listening. How do you guys personally switch off from the business or even do you?
Lindsay:
That’s a good question.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah. I’m trying to work it out. That’s why I it’s the whole reason for Agency Life. No. These questions.
Martin:
Please tell us.
Lindsay:
Please. Someone to help.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Okay. Good. So I’m not the only one. No?
Lindsay:
No. I mean, we find even if we go to, like, a restaurant on a Saturday night, we were just, like, so this client, we could do this and this and all.
Lindsay:
We’re just so sad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
It is your passion though, isn’t it? So it
Lindsay:
doesn’t Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Feel like a bad thing.
Lindsay:
Exactly. No. No. It doesn’t. It doesn’t. It is what we love to do, isn’t it? So I know it sounds really cliche and cheesy.
Martin:
But it helps us get up in the morning. It helps us jump out of bed. It’s just one of those things in terms of let’s get let’s get cracking. Let’s let’s write this piece of content. Let’s, finish this website. Let’s go live. Let’s do all of this amazing stuff. And it’s just exciting.
Martin:
And when it stops being that exciting, then we need to change things. But up until now, we’re doing we’re doing okay.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Awesome. Right. So question actually, that’s quite apt. The next question is, how do you stay healthy? I’m struggling with this one. I’m I’m a member of a gym that I haven’t been to for 4 weeks. So how do you guys stay healthy?
Lindsay:
It’s a difficult one as well because we’re away from home.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And if you don’t, that’s fine as well.
Lindsay:
Because we’re away from home, it is it is difficult. Yeah. Because it feels like the whole house sometimes is your place of work. So we do we do get out every day. We’re looking up to the track by the sea. Mhmm.
Martin:
So we
Lindsay:
do go out every day. We go for a walk because it it then feels like you’re kind of heading
Lee Matthew Jackson:
out your
Martin:
face. Yeah.
Lindsay:
Yeah. But that’s pretty much
Martin:
I I eat porridge every day. It doesn’t do an awful lot.
Lindsay:
It’s got a proof of porridge.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That that’s amazing. That’s good.
Martin:
And the porridge
Lindsay:
I just have crumpets. I’m not healthy. It’s always mobile mobile to the crumpets.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Oh, I was gonna say I love I love a really buttery crumpet.
Martin:
You know if there are any Americans watching? We need to we need to tell them about crumpets because they might not know. Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Well, we’re coming into la yeah. We’ll put a link to a crumpet. Coming into land now, though it’s just us 3 talking right now, and it’s confession time. A few 1,000 listeners as well, but don’t worry about them. What is the biggest problem that you have as an agency?
Lindsay:
Oh, you answered this one.
Martin:
I think for us
Lindsay:
Time.
Martin:
Time.
Lindsay:
It’s I I do want it. We don’t have any. Do you have any to give us? Any spare?
Lee Matthew Jackson:
No. I can give you a tip, which you probably already do, but, like, it we down tools at 4, regardless.
Martin:
You are? Sorry.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
We down tools at 4, regardless, even if something’s not finished.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And which means that’s not giving us time. But what that is doing at least is it’s saying, alright. Our deadline is is we’ve gotta get stuff finished for 4 o’clock because we’re all going home and we’re chilling. So that helps us create time because we’ve become more efficient to try and finish it by that 4 o’clock. But, also, it helps us protect time if we haven’t finished something before that 4 o’clock deadline or 4 o’clock close. We’ll be talking to clients already in advance setting their expectations saying, hey. Hey. This is taking a bit longer because of whatever.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah. So, you know, expect it in a couple of days. And as long as we’re communicating with the clients, they’re quite happy for things to not necessarily be on the exact day that we predicted because they know the nature of the beast. It’s development. Things do take time. Things can get bugs. So that’s the way we’ve been been protecting our times. And I’ve watched a hell of a lot more Netflix than than normal by doing that.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
It’s very, very effective.
Martin:
We tend to do a lot of our own content and stuff outside of hours, which means we can just spend working hours on clients. So they’re nice. And we like Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s interesting because I because I’ve actually been doing my content in work time as well. So 4 o’clock off. I’m off now. And and and like I said, Netflix or beer. I I’ve gotta stop that for the healthy thing. I really do have to stop that. I’ve got 3 beers left, and I promise Larissa and Kate that I’m gonna stop. I sound like an alcoholic now.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Promise I’m not. Alright. Well, let’s move on before this goes out of hand. Last question is tools. Can you name just one tool? You gotta be really good on this. You can’t, like, give me a list of tools. One tool could be software, could be a keyboard, although that’d be a bit lame, that you
Lindsay:
They are handy.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That you feel has been essential to your agency’s success and why.
Martin:
Okay. So for me, it’s Google Docs. So that’s pretty basic. It’s not I don’t even know if it’s really a tool. I suppose it can be, but
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yes, at all.
Martin:
For me, the second somebody gives me an idea for a piece of content, if it’s a client asking me a question, I’ll open a brand new Google Doc and I’ll type in that question. And off the top of my head, if I can list bullet points on that on that question, then I’ve already got a structure for my next piece of content from my blog post. We’ve been using podcasts as well. So
Lindsay:
He just doesn’t organize them. There’s just Google Docs everywhere. There’s just files everywhere.
Martin:
But when I go in, it’s like it’s like Christmas because there’s so many blog posts I can write. It’s just like it’s just like it’s like a Harry Potter fact. It’s just joyful.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And if you can’t guess, they like Harry Potter. They also like Star Wars, cuddly toys
Lindsay:
Yes.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And turquoise. Yes. So I really recommend you head on over to agency trailblazer.comforward/youtube that’ll redirect you so you can watch the version of this if you are listening to the podcast. Because these two beautiful people should be watched, not just listened to. Guys, this has been awesome. I really, really enjoyed it.
Martin:
Oh, we’ve loved it. Wow. Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
You should be on video more because you’re really funny together, and I think people just wanna watch you. So I know you got your podcast, but maybe consider being on YouTube a few times as well if you’re not already Awesome. Because you are great fun. I love watching. I I I’ll sometimes watch the repeats, you know, when you’ve done the analysis of people’s websites.
Martin:
Mhmm.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I’m watching those as well. And, again, I recommend people go ahead and check out your websites. Definitely check out the Facebook group as well and be a part of that. We’ll put links in the show notes of this episode. So all that’s left for me, guys, is to say thank you so much for your time, and have a wonderful day.
Martin:
Thank you. You too.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And I assume you’re gonna go and have a nice walk later on along the front of Blackpool. Is it
Lee Matthew Jackson:
you’re at Blackpool you are, guys? Near Blackpool.
Lindsay:
Yeah. Near Blackpool. Yeah. Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Nice. And that nice tram along
Martin:
the front.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Martin:
It’s funny, actually. You can actually hear it go past, which is quite nice.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Wow.
Martin:
You can’t just go outside.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah. Well, then you are very close to the sea then, aren’t you? Yeah. Because the tram’s not that loud. That’s amazing. Can you see the sea from your house? Well, this is like after hours now, isn’t it?
Lindsay:
Yeah. Just the sea. Yeah. If you, like, kind of squint. There’s quite a few houses in a way.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So honestly so you could you could legitimately say sea view?
Lindsay:
Exactly. Yeah. If we really get state agents. Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Sea view. View. Stretch not too far out the window or you’ll fall. But if you just Oh, there’s the you know,
Martin:
you have to go to the physio afterwards.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Oh, there’s the cat. Look. We’ve got the cat now as well.
Martin:
That’s a little place.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
She sits
Martin:
on the Harry Potter books.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Oh, that oh, they’re the Harry Potter books.
Martin:
That’s it.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah. Is that is that Minnie Groot at the back there as well? I’m squinting.
Lindsay:
No. We’ve got That’s Harry Potter and an owl.
Martin:
She’s got an owl.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Oh, no. I mean at the top next to your make your mark online.
Martin:
That’s Chewbacca. Chewbacca on him. Right. On ATSD. Yes.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Confession time for me. I need Oh, yeah. I see what that is. Yeah. I’ve got these glasses that reflect because I was too cheapskate to, go ahead and get the glasses that didn’t have the The roof light. Protect thing. And now I realize my mistake, so I’ve been torturing my eyes by not wearing my glasses for video because otherwise you guys will see my screen and we’ll have this inceptive reflection. Yeah.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah. Oh, I see that now. Still looks like real.
Martin:
Still look awesome.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Glasses and glasses. Woah. Alright. And you’re especially attractive with my glasses on. Wow. Guys, thanks for your time.
Martin:
Thanks very much, mate. It was a pleasure.
Lindsay:
See you later.
Martin:
Bye. Bye.
