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Lee Matthew Jackson:
Hi and welcome to the WP Innovator podcast, the WordPress podcast for design and web agencies. Let’s make WordPress work for your business. Welcome to episode 19 of the WP Innovator podcast. Today we have Adam Davis online with you talking all about his business. So how he got started, how he went from being a cop to a web developer, and some of the unique things that he does in his agency. So there’s a lot that we can learn from his story. It’s absolutely fascinating. So I know you’re going to enjoy this and enjoy his amazing personality and his friendliness.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Now, before we crack on, there’s a couple of things I’d like to let you know about. First of all, I’ve extended the secret plugin list. It’s been super popular. Loads of people love the secret list of plugins that I’ve released which have completely transformed my agency. So if you’re a design agency, you’re a marketing, social media, or you are a web agency, then go check out leejacksondev.com for secret list and in there you’re going to find out 10 plugins that I use and how I’ve used them to transform my agency. And then finally, if you head on over to the Facebook group, which is leejacksondev.com group, you can come and join all of the other listeners of the WP Innovator podcast. Let’s get conversations going, let’s share plugins, share advice, ask questions and let’s have fun. Alrighty, without further ado, on with the show.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Hi, this is Lee on the WP Innovator podcast. In freezing cold weather, we know how to name our storms here and I think we’ve got Hurricane Irene or something going on in the background, so I apologize for any audio quality. Now, over in the sunny states, we’ve got a young man from Alabama and I’d like to introduce you to Adam White. I really need to buy this sound effects machine. Now. Adam White, he is a web professional. He helps small businesses by giving them consultancy in how to get the most from their WordPress websites. And he also builds epic WordPress sites.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So let me shut up for a second and hand over to you, Adam, to say hi and give us a short bio of yourself, mate.
Adam Davis:
Thank you, Lee, thank you for introducing me and I’m sure Adam White is a phenomenal person, but my name is Adam, Adam Davis.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Adam Davis.
Adam Davis:
I tell you what, I believe in small businesses and I believe in freelancers and I believe in entrepreneurs. I started this business was birthed out of a mere accident. I wrote a book back in January of 2015. The book sold across the United States from coast to coast and Canada. And it was a book for law enforcement. After spending six years in law enforcement, I wrote this book as just a means of encouraging and providing some, some positive encouragement for law enforcement. So I had small business owners start coming to me saying, hey, how much would you charge me to come by and take a look at our website? How much would you charge us to help us with social media marketing? How much would you charge? You know, I don’t know. I’m making $16, you know, an hour as a cop.
Adam Davis:
I have no idea what to charge you. So it was strictly through demand that a business was born. And By October of 2015, I was able to leave my full time job in law enforcement. A lot of people said I was crazy, but I had almost $30,000 in business lined up for the month of October and I tripled my income right out of the gate. And it was all because every business that I work with, I delivered results. And that is the bottom line of what I do. I deliver results. A website is meaningless if I can’t deliver results.
Adam Davis:
And I don’t provide you with an increased bottom line. Right. So this is how my business grew. I mean, it’s exploded and every month has increased tremendously. And you know, I attribute a lot of that to my faith, my belief system, my thought system, and to the fact that I’m able to reach out to people like you, Troy Dean, and a lot of other great guys around the, around the globe, which is, is really phenomenal.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Now that is awesome. And what was, what was the book called that you wrote?
Adam Davis:
The name of the book was called Spirit and Truth 52 encouraging messages for America’s Law Enforcement. And it can be found on Amazon Truth.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
All right, well, I’ll put that one in the show notes because that’s always. Thank you to read. So Spirit and truth. So and then from that it just, I guess it just skyrocket. Skyrocketed. Do you receive people asking for help? And then boom, a business was born. I love how you said as well that you, you know, you’re a business focused on results. Sometimes people can get very focused on just making a website and then kind of just leaving you there with your website.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
All right, bye bye, Wavy. But it sounds like from, from the content that you put out from our conversation before we even started this podcast, that for you it’s really, really important. Yes, to deliver a website, but that kind of ongoing relationship to support that client through the next few years and make that website really work for themselves. So that’s absolutely awesome and I love that prospect. I’m also trying to, you know, myself, with my own agency, really trying to focus on those long term relationships because it’s really sad to see a website be built and then handed over and then you don’t get the benefit of that kind of ongoing relationship with the person as well.
Adam Davis:
Yeah, absolutely. And you know, one of the things that I noticed right out of the gate was, you know, I may be generating 6, 8, $10,000 a month in revenue, but if I don’t have any recurring revenue built in through website care plans or consulting or whatever, I mean, you’re going to have slow months, you’re going to have months that, you know, you generate less revenue than others and you need to have a diverse, a stream of income. You need to have, you don’t need to put all your eggs in one basket. Right. And I’m sure most of your listeners are probably wondering, where’s this guy from and why does his accent sound so funny? But it’s the truth. You absolutely, you cannot rely on one single product or service to help you make ends meet or generate the type of financial goals that you want to reach. So I did that through offering website care plans. And so I offered a benefit, I offered kind of an incentive.
Adam Davis:
I said, hey, if you pay this much, it’ll be this much monthly. And if you pay it a year in advance, I’m going to offer you a discount. And like 90% of them are paying a year in advance. So, you know, that kind of defeats the purpose. But I mean, they’re paying a year in advance for me to take care of their website, you know, every month. And so we spell it out how many, what I’m going to do for them and break all that down, you know, like, like any agency would. So, you know, the biggest, the biggest challenge is finding qualified designers, developers, programmers that I can, that I can network with and outsource to because it’s a, it’s a small operation. But I think that I’ve, I’ve kind of achieved some epic results in such a short period of time.
Adam Davis:
You know, when I was interviewed for an article that was originally published on Entrepreneur Magazine online and was syndicated to FoxNews.com they said, hey, what piece of advice would you give to an entrepreneur that’s starting out today? And one of the first things I said was expect slow growth. Slow growth is good. And here My business is skyrocket. It’s completely opposite of what I said, but it was, it was, it’s the baby steps in the beginning that we really, we really don’t want to talk about. It’s the grind that nobody really wants to glamorize. That’s all part of it. It’s all part of the growth. It’s all part of the process.
Adam Davis:
So, you know, that’s kind of where I’m at and how I got to where I am. And you know, I enjoy the freedom. Of course you’re going to have difficult clients, but that’s all part of the game.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So over the last, I mean, over the last few years, you mentioned one of the challenges being connecting with good freelancers, etc. Is that been the biggest challenge of your business or is there anything else over there? Kind of the slow grow at time and then the skyrocketing. Is there anything particularly that stands out to you as one of those big challenges that potentially could have been a make or a break?
Adam Davis:
I think right out of the gate. One of the biggest challenges for me was finding a balance and finding the perfect pipeline process and then being able to kind of gauge, okay, how long is this project going to take, how much, you know, how much time do I do I need to give myself? And then over committing to other things outside of what you’re doing, it was really a whole new world of freedom that I found myself in. And that was a really big challenge to adjust to. And you know, you wouldn’t think it would be, but it was.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I can definitely resonate with the over committing side of things there. You’ve suddenly got all this business coming in, you don’t know when to say no. And then suddenly you’ve got more work on that you never dream of and you have no time.
Adam Davis:
Exactly.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So the lifestyle you wanted kind of disappears because you’re chained to a job.
Adam Davis:
And that’s, and that’s what I’ve experienced in the past probably 45 days. I was inundated with work in the month of January and I have got probably 10, 12 new clients onboarding this week. I mean, I’m being inundated with people wanting to bring me on board and team up with me to help their business grow because the businesses I work with have results. And I put it to you like this. If your business generates a million dollars a year and you could pay me, just say throw out a number, but I could deliver a 6% minimum increase in your revenue. It would more than pay for what you’re offering what you’re investing in me and then you’re going to see that income increase, you know, through the next couple of years, through the process, through the consulting, through the website design. I mean, it’s a no brainer. So that’s what I found myself dealing with.
Adam Davis:
I’ve created a perfect storm where the majority of my business comes from nation, you know, across the United States and globally. And businesses are hungry for somebody that can deliver results. And if you can deliver results, you need to have a team in place because you’re gonna need help.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So what sort of ways do you
Lee Matthew Jackson:
kind of monitor and show these sorts of results?
Adam Davis:
You know, I provide them real life references. I’ll take them back to previous clients I’ve worked with and said, you know, hey, talk to, you know, to John Doe over here at XYZ company and he’ll show you the results that I delivered. And it may not be through a website design, it may just be through the business consulting aspect of it. I’ve been featured probably a half dozen times on the front page of the Huffington Post business section because of, you know, of the content, the knowledge that I provide and it’s some of the same stuff that I tell, you know, the businesses that I work with, obviously not all of it, but it’s some of the same principles that I tell and share and coach and help them with on growing. So I provide them real life connections and real time connectivity with me and at some point that’s going to dry up because I can’t help everybody. But that’s probably a challenge that’s going to present itself soon if I don’t take care of it.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So have you thought of putting together some sort of training package especially for other agencies who probably struggle with a lot of the things you’re talking about? I mean, it sounds fantastic. You, you seem to have an onboarding process, a way of generating good, valuable leads that you’re able to convert, etc. So have you thought of putting together something like that, some kind of system and selling it?
Adam Davis:
Honestly has not crossed my mind, Lee, because I’ve got probably two or three more weeks of really getting after it. And I’ve been in, you know, in college full time. I’m 34, I’ve been in college full time since 2012 and I’ll graduate in about three weeks. So. So in a year’s time I’ve launched a book, I’ve left my job, I’ve launched a business and I’ve over tripled my income in A year’s time. So I think that there are certainly some principles there that I could probably create a package for individuals and businesses and certainly WordPress Web design agencies that they would benefit from. And it really. I haven’t seen the demand for it yet, but I’m sure that, that it’ll come and as that demand increases, then, then that’ll certainly be something that I give attention to.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Well, who knows? You never know. And if you’re listening to this and your ears are being pricked up by what Adam is saying, we’re gonna put how to connect with Adam in the show notes. So I’m sure Adam will be more than happy to have you connect with him and have a conversation. So, Adam, over the last couple of years, especially then, has there been kind of an idea or a product that has been an absolute game changer for your business?
Adam Davis:
Oh, my goodness.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I know that’s a big question.
Adam Davis:
Yes, because, you know, we’re overloaded with information and it can be a noisy, noisy world. And that can provide a lot of distraction for us, especially, you know, as a business owner, as an entrepreneur, writer, designer, whatever you are, it doesn’t matter who you are, it can, it can be a tremendous distraction. So if, if I had to point to one, I’m probably going to point over to Troy Dean. He’s been such a tremendous, tremendous help for kind of giving me some of the direction that I need and just giving some clarity, really. Because you can do, you know, you could own your own business, but until you’ve successfully ran a WordPress design agency or a digital marketing agency, you really have no clue. You may have the knowledge to do all of those things and to do them superbly, but if you don’t understand the flow in the pipeline and the blueprint, then you’re going to have your own challenges. I mean, you really need somebody to help show you the process.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Absolutely. I can certainly vouch for that myself. I’ve been a member of WP Elevation and gone through quite a lot of the courses, and a couple of years ago, that really transformed the way I ran my own business. And any client of mine who’s listening will have received the proposal template from Troy Dean many a time, because I just go through and fill in the blanks for the relevant project. It’s been an absolute godsend for me. Yesterday especially. Yeah. And it works anywhere in the world.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I mean, the guys from Australia, but the, the terminology, etc. Just kind of lends itself for pretty much any country or any website in the world. You just fill in the blanks. And it’s been. It’s been a savior for me as well, because there have been certain projects, you know, which could have potentially gone wrong, but you know, you’re covered. And again, I can imagine there are certainly agencies out there that will have had that problem. You know, the contract isn’t good enough, and they’re kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place trying to produce something that nobody necessarily agreed to, but the client’s kind of holding out on you.
Adam Davis:
Well, and, you know, my first web design was I got paid $125. And it just embarrasses me to say that I should have done it just for free and just been done with it, but $125. And since then, I have landed over a $5,800 deal. I’ve got a $10,000 deal coming in. And, I mean, my prices have increased substantially. But even before I got into. Before I connected with Troy Dean, I was charging fourteen, fifteen hundred dollars a website, and realized that I was really undercutting myself on value and what I provided my clients with. And then also on the hourly consulting package, or if you want a monthly retainer, how you package that, don’t sell yourself short.
Adam Davis:
Don’t sell yourself short and really devalue what you’re giving your clients because you have this idea that you’re not worth it or your service is not worth it. You could price it below what the market brings and still do well. But my prices have increased substantially. I still can’t believe I charged $125 for a website. It just blows my mind.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Well, I mean, if it’s any consolation to you, mate, I think My first WordPress theme from scratch from a design was something like $250, because I had absolutely no concept of how many I was going to have to do. I was just naively starting this business many years ago, and I think I spent a week building a really complicated WordPress theme from scratch. So, I mean, the design was provided, but I was spending hours, you know, testing quality assurance, all of that sort of stuff. And I kind of realized at the end of that week that, you know, I was going to have to do a lot of websites and clone myself a few times over if I was going to even put some food on the table. So, you know, my prices quadrupled from there, and I’ve kind of lost count of where they’ve gone now, to be honest, because it’s now very much like you said, a value based and it’s a project per project really. And again down to Troy Dean and other similar people. I’ve listened to John Lee Dumas as well. And people are really talking about value and valuing yourself.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I was encouraged as well. You mentioned your faith beliefs. I guess for me as well, one of the things a couple of years ago is we had a series at church where they were talking about believing in yourself and not believing lies. So I decided to apply that as well to the business. So believing that, you know, my business and my service really had value and I was going to charge, you know, a decent value. So that again, was one of those. Yeah, definitely. Hashtag relatable there, mate.
Adam Davis:
Oh, absolutely. You know, when, if I have a client and we’re on the same page, when it’s, you know, faith related, then certainly things just seem to prosper a lot better. We just, you know, the chemistry is a lot better. But I work with people from all religious backgrounds and all types of different belief systems. And the bottom line is this, it doesn’t matter for anybody else or myself, you know, if you don’t believe, if you don’t change your thinking to believe that you’re worth it to believe, if you don’t believe that your service is worth it, your client’s not going to believe it either. And it reflects in the way that everybody else deals with you and the way they treat you and the way they work with you. You really have to change your thinking and understand that you’re worth it, that you have the value and that you do deliver the value. And continue to learn, always learn.
Adam Davis:
Because it’s an evolving industry and, you know, we always need to continue to learn everything from, you know, WordPress or the coding or business aspect, relationships, communication, you name it. I mean, we never stop learning.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Absolutely. I was, I was nodding my head vigorously, buddy, and that was awesome. I mean, I got to admit, I mean, I say this to my own team as well, internally, regularly, you know, trying to encourage them internally as well, just to remind them of their value and, and not to undercut themselves in their own estimation of themselves. Because I’m actually trying to teach them, themselves to kind of price up jobs so that they can understand that we, as a business, we provide real high value. It’s not about the hours we work. Sometimes we might not work very many hours, but the actual output of that is immense. It’s going to really add value to the end user and take them to places that they, they really want to be at. So that’s awesome.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Hey, Bud, Is there a WordPress plugin? You’ve been working with WordPress for some years now, young, 34 as you are. Actually, I’m 30. I’m just about to catch you up in August, mate. So there you go. I’m 33 at the moment, so I’m a whippersnapper. Anyway, so what WordPress plugin? You can name more than one, to be honest. You know, but is there a WordPress plugin or in brackets plugins that you just think are freaking awesome, have been really useful for your agency and you’d recommend people go ahead and check out?
Adam Davis:
Oh, there’s so many. Why’d you have to ask me that?
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Well, start with the first.
Adam Davis:
I am going to suggest security. I’m probably not pronouncing that right. For security.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yep. I say it the same as you.
Adam Davis:
Yes. And Yoast for SEO, those are two really good ones. Contact form 7 is good. Those are some really good ones that I like. I mean, I have so many. I have a folder slam full of options. I mean, it’s probably 100 or so that I. That I can.
Adam Davis:
That I can pick from. And I’m. And I’m. And I’m picky, but those are. Those are really good. I like optimized press.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Has there been any particular plugin as well that you found yourself using and reusing in client sites?
Adam Davis:
Visual Composer is good just, you know, because if you got to pass it on to them, it’s easy to show the client, okay, this is how you update it, this is how you can make your changes. It’s just really easy for them to use. But, yeah, I use Sucuri on all of them and I use Yoast on everyone now.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I think the thing I like about Sucuri is it kind of lets me go to bed at night not worrying that the site is going to get hacked. And if it ever did get hacked, which you’ve already prevented that by being on Sucuri, they’re going to clean it up for you anyway. So, Absolutely. I’m going to make sure I put these links in here in the show notes as well. But, yeah, I’m going to second you on Sucuri. If you want to sleep at night, go and check out Sucuri. It’s freaking awesome. And hey, they’ve really increased their services as well.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I don’t if you’ve noticed in the control panel, essentially it’s now a full CDN as well, and they’ve got caching in there as well. So not only is it keeping you secure. It’s actually speeding up your site.
Adam Davis:
Yes, it is as well, which is great benefit.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Yeah. I’ve seen a marked increase, especially over the last few months, for quite a few of my clients who choose to go through Sucuri. I make it optional for my clients, you know, if they want to and if they don’t, obviously that’s their decision. But I mean, the price point, I think it works out like 16 bucks a month. It’s definitely worth it for peace of mind.
Adam Davis:
Yes, very much worth it.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Absolutely. No, that’s a good call. So I’ll definitely put in Sucuri and I’ll list all the other ones as well. All firm favorites of mine as well. I don’t use Visual Composer personally. I think I tend to use Beaver Builder. But it’s the same sort of premise. It’s just giving people that visual ability, both in the front end and the back end, to kind of create up content pages, especially those people who want to own it for themselves.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Kind of going on in the future. So, mate, you mentioned you’ve been on the Huffington Post. That’s freaking amazing. I actually Googled Huffington Post. I’m going to have to try and find some of the articles you were featured in. But speaking of online resources, is there any particular place that you go to regularly that really helps you grow as a businessman that you’d recommend people go check out?
Adam Davis:
You know, entrepreneur.com is a good one. Huffington Post business section, they usually have a lot of really good information. You can check out my link. There’s huffington post.com forward slash Adam Davis. Davis, Yep.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s awesome, man. So that’s the Huffington Post business section. There’s your section, the Adam Davis, wasn’t it? And then there’s entrepreneur.com and mate, I mean, you sound like a podcast listener as well. Is there any sort of podcast that you’d recommend people go check out and it doesn’t have WordPress released?
Adam Davis:
Yeah, I listen to Entrepreneur on Fire. I love, love that. There’s always really good content there. And of course, WP Elevator and Smart Passive Income. Those are usually the three. And then I like listening to. There’s a local guy named Andy Andrews. He’s nationwide, he’s on a huge platform, but he’s really good.
Adam Davis:
Michael Hyatt. Those are. Those are some of the ones I listen to.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And who was the local guy? Andy Andrews.
Adam Davis:
Was it Andy Andrews? And then I listened to a leadership podcast by Andy Stanley.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Stanley. Leadership. So important. There you go. Leadership. All right. Well, that’s a few for people to go in. So again, I’ll make sure these are all in the show notes for people to go check out.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
But yeah, entrepreneur on fire. I only discovered him about a year and a half ago and I’m kind of unfortunately, I guess, kind of fanboying a bit of a fanboy of John Lee Dumas now. I think he’s freaking awesome. I’m on the Podcasters paradise group as well. That which was really instrumental really in getting this podcast launched itself. So you know, for anyone who’s got any doubts about John Lee Dumas, he really does know his stuff and the, the quality of the content that he then puts out. For example, Podcasters paradise definitely worth the money. I guess the same with Troy Dean as well.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
WP Elevation. Great podcast and he’s got an amazing private area full of amazing documentation, courses, etc. In fact, he’s just gone through a relaunch, hasn’t it? It looks amazing.
Adam Davis:
Yes, it does.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
They really invested a lot of money in making that just a pukka resource for agencies. So yeah, boom. High five to everyone. So mate, we’ve covered a lot in a very short space of time and I’m super excited by the results that you’re getting and I know people are going to be getting in touch with you. If there was one thing that you could recommend people were to do kind of over the next few days, one small thing that you think will really make a difference to their business, what do you think that one thing could be bearing in mind? Everyone’s busy, they’re, they kind of, the head’s all over the place, but they want to feel like they’re taking that one step in the right, right direction. What do you reckon that could be?
Adam Davis:
Bookend your day. At the end of your day, sit down and ask yourself a couple of different questions. What did I accomplish today? What did I not accomplish today? Why did I not accomplish it and what could I have accomplished? And then list out six things that you want to accomplish the next day and go ahead and schedule your day in advance. Work on those six things. Especially if you’re self employed running a business. Work on those things. Of course you’re going to leave yourself some room for margin, but bookend your day every single day. It’s best if you write it down.
Adam Davis:
But if you don’t, at least take some time to reflect and look at what you’ve accomplished in a day, why you didn’t accomplish what you wanted to and just take some time to kind of slow down mentally and get organized and plan your stuff out a little bit more thoroughly.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s awesome. I love that phrase, bookend your day. It’s a nice visual way of kind of you start out and then you close off and is there a particular time you like to close off and kind of chill out of an evening, or are you?
Adam Davis:
I work 24, 7, I really do. But I find that, you know, at night is a really good time for me to kind of break away, even if it’s just for a couple of hours. If I break away during the evening or, I mean, I can break away whenever I want to, really. But at night for a couple of hours, sit around and enjoy the time with my family, whether it’s watching a show or going to an event or something, just spending time with them. That’s my key. And then I have my time in the mornings that I usually get mentally prepared for my day. It may only be 15, 20, 30 minutes, but that time is critical to my success.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
That’s awesome. Are you an early riser as well?
Adam Davis:
Yes. Like last night I was in bed at probably 1:15am our time, Central Time, and I was up at 6am so that’s just from old policing days, law enforcement days. That’s just the way I’m wired.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
I’m beginning to wonder whether we were separated at birth just because we have a very. I mean, we obviously look very similar, same sort of hairstyle, which is quite hard to achieve. This hairstyle as well, a lot of work into it, but. But also your podcast list looks exactly like my phone. We’re in the same industry and we both have the same sleep pattern. You know, 1am in the morning and I’m up at 5 or 6, ready to start a day. For example, this morning at 5:00am I was. I was recording intros and outros to a podcast and then getting it live.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So. But hey, but I don’t have a policing background to thank for that. I just have an overactive brain. So I’m constantly thinking of what I can do next. I think this bookend your day is something that I’m going to have a real good go at because maybe that might help my brain to turn off a little bit instead of taking it to the evening. Yeah, well, hey, I’m going to keep you posted on how that goes.
Adam Davis:
Yes, do indeed.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
So, mate, I guess what we’ll do then is we’re going to wrap up with how can people connect with you? Because I reckon there are going to be a few people listening right now who are like Freaking hey, I want to chat to this guy, I want to find out more about him, how he works, etc. So what are the best ways of getting in touch with you, mate? And then we’ll say goodbye.
Adam Davis:
Absolutely. You can find me on Twitter dumb DavisRider w r I T E R Adam Davis, writer. It’s the same for Instagram, Adam Davisrider facebook.com AdamDavisRider or you can email me AdamDamDavis Co AdamDamDavis Co so I am
Lee Matthew Jackson:
gonna make sure we transcribe all this. We’re gonna get it down in the show notes. You’ve heard it from Adam himself. Feel free to get in touch. He’s a great guy, as you can hear and I’ve really enjoyed talking to you, mate. So all that’s left to say is thank you so much for spending some time with us and take care of yourself, buddy.
Adam Davis:
Thank you for having me, Lee. And I hope you have a great day.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Awesome, man. Thanks, bud.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
And there you have it. Episode 19 wrapped up. Like I said, fascinating to get insights into Adam’s startup story. Adam, I do apologize for screwing up your name. I do actually know an Adam White. In my defense. Alright, guys, remember you, you can grab that secret plugin list [email protected] secretlist and if you want to be a part of the private Facebook group, head on over to leejacksondev.com group or if you’re on Facebook right now, if you’re like me, that is. I’m usually on Facebook all the time.
Lee Matthew Jackson:
Just run a search for WP Innovator and you’ll find the Facebook group in there. Alright, have an awesome week and we’ll see you next week for episode 20.
